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Are we dealing with Bond Pain Trade 2.0?

Institutional investors have allegedly swapped their stocks for bonds again. The last time they did so, a violent bull market ensued. But fundamental support was much stronger back then.

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Rene Bruentrup
Apr 22, 2025
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Disclaimer: The information contained in this article is not and should not be construed as investment advice. This is my investing journey and I simply share what I do and why I do that for educational and entertainment purposes.


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  • In 2022, investors started to build large positions in bonds because these started paying interest worth its name again and because they expected a recession triggered by the rate hikes. Betting against this long bonds crowd has made a lot of money for more than two years. Forcing them to chase stocks contributed greatly to the bull market, certainly more than many people realize.

  • The latest stock market sell-off has brought forward old habits. The Bank of America fund manager survey suggests that investors are once again selling stocks to buy bonds. This time they are concerned that a global trade war will bring the economy to its knees. This is a serious challenge to my overall bearish stance. Once again I have to ask myself: Can money be made by shorting bonds against stocks? The latest woes in the Treasury market seem to support that idea. But I believe there are strong arguments against putting a huge weight on this sentiment and positioning data right now.

  • Firstly, TLT, one of the largest long duration Treasury ETFs, has not received new love. Investors have started dumping their shares in August and they are still doing so.

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